This Insane Avengers 4 Fan Theory Could Be The Most Believable Yet

It’s a very heavy read.


Another day, another Avengers 4 fan theory. Don’t worry, we’ve got another six months of this to go before our minds are put at rest.

So, we all know Marvel left things on pretty uncertain terms for our heroes by now. If you didn’t know that, where have you been for the duration of this year?

The most notable piece of the closing scenes of Infinity War came via Nick Fury. Well, the most notable part if you forget about half the universe vanishing.

As he meets a similar pixely end, Samuel L. Jackson can be seen sending out a message on his pager-like machine, with what appears to contain the Captain Marvel emblem.

We already had a hunch that this was going to be a pretty big part of the upcoming film, we just weren’t sure in which way.

Redditor sfmarch07 has speculated in pretty impressive detail, just what this message could mean going forward.

“I believe Nick Fury in the ‘90s in the Captain Marvel movie will be shown or made aware of the future and future events, potentially even by Doctor Strange coming back in time from Infinity War. He will be shown specific things that he and other characters have to do throughout the entire MCU to ultimately set up future events for how they need to be in order for the Avengers to win in Avengers 4, per Doctor Strange’s end game plan from the possible 1 out of 14 million outcomes. Meaning everything that has happened in the MCU so far had to happen the way it did, but more importantly was set up in certain cases to happen the way it did partly by Fury himself.”

Basically, what they’re getting at, is that Fury new all along that this is what it was going to come to. That one in 14 million chance of defeating Thanos had to pan out in the way it has so far.


“If you go back and watch most of the scenes and post credit scenes with Nick Fury in the MCU movies, it’s like he always knows something that the other characters don’t, and knows how to tell them just what they need to hear or contributes something that makes a big difference with no explanation of how or why he knew to do it. (…) If Fury was shown the events of the future back in 1990 during the Captain Marvel movie and was shown things he needed to do for the future, that would also explain why he started out as a lower level guy in S.H.I.E.L.D who was ready to hang it up (according to the Captain Marvel trailer) but ends up becoming the director of S.H.I.E.L.D. by the events of the first Iron Man movie in 2008.”

We know something pretty big is going to happen. For one, we know the Spider-Man sequel is set just after the events of the new Avengers movie, so he’s got to come back in some way.

Some kind of time travel storyline has been the most common theory so far, understandable given the power of Dr Strange. An idea explored once again by this particular theory.

“During Captain Marvel, Nick Fury learns about aliens and cosmic threats for the first time, which is his true motivation for assembling the Avengers in the first place. (…) I think in Avengers 4, through some time travel, you’ll be shown  how all the events in the MCU up to this point have been set up and happened the way they did for a reason, especially the events of Captain America: Civil War (which was also written by the Russo brothers).”

But wait, there’s more. Another part of the theory is one that sounds much less familiar, at least to any theories I’ve come across so far anyway.


“In order to retrieve the Soul Stone, Tony [Stark] is going to have to sacrifice something, the same way Thanos had to sacrifice Gamora. But instead of sacrificing Pepper Potts, what if Tony instead has to go back in time to 1991 and infiltrate Hydra or seek out the Winter Soldier, and order the hit on his parents himself, sacrificing the thing he loves most? (…) It would be the hardest decision that any character has had to make in the entire MCU, and a decision that only Tony Stark himself could make. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Captain Marvel takes place in 1990 and Tony’s parents are killed in 1991.”

Honestly, whoever this Redditor is, I imagine will be hearing a knock at their door any time now by smartly dressed agents sent by Stan Lee himself.

“This would create a time loop sort of or a causal loop or bootstrap paradox in the MCU timeline. Without necessarily needing to change anything in the past or re-writing the timeline, it sets up more of a “which came first, the chicken or the egg?” type scenario, because I don’t think Marvel Studios would spend 22 movies setting up all of these intricate stories to just then go back and erase them or re-write the timeline in Avengers 4.”

The whole theory seems extremely plausible, if not a little confusing. Either way, I need a lie down.

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